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1  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Buy Sell Vintage Boats Free Advertising, Outboards, Parts. / Re: FOR SALE< SAVAGE ELECTRA EXC CONDITION (ORIG) SAVAGE BOSUN on: December 10, 2011, 07:22:59 PM
not sure how to upload the pics!!
sorry, trying to use from photobucket
2  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Buy Sell Vintage Boats Free Advertising, Outboards, Parts. / Re: FOR SALE< SAVAGE ELECTRA EXC CONDITION (ORIG) SAVAGE BOSUN on: December 10, 2011, 07:20:31 PM
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3  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Buy Sell Vintage Boats Free Advertising, Outboards, Parts. / FOR SALE< SAVAGE ELECTRA EXC CONDITION (ORIG) SAVAGE BOSUN on: December 10, 2011, 03:53:26 PM
Hi guys
I have not posted here much , but thought this was the perfect forum to post.
I have an excellent condition savage electra, with a 115 HP evinrude.
Boat has original paintjob seats, cover and bimini.
comes with a brooker tilt trailer in also excellent condition.
both registered .
Engine is perfect condition has around 600 hours legit!
some inclusions
new petrol tank
hoses filters battery isolation system, glove box.
Spotless
asking  $5500


Savage Bosun 13ft speed ski boat
floor has been prof. reconstructed,
trailer has new neoprene rollers and pins.
tilt also.
no motor but has steering linkages and throttle controls
vg condition on the outside

$1200

please pm me and will have pics soon!

I have had the bosun advertised in boatpoint but may put it on Ebay shortly.
The electra has never been for sale.
thank you
Marcel
4  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Restoration Projects: Underway, Prospects, also Help and Advice / Re: Repairing holes in transom on: February 22, 2011, 11:51:10 PM
Again Nev, I left a few minor gauges on my fiberglass , which I topped with car bog, it was not used to cover a hole nor it is weakening the repair.
It is a cosmetic cover and  i have no photo of this step.
I could have applied resin again , but saw no need nor advantages.

Also guys , my original idea to repair this was to be done with Gelcoat.
Unfortunately , at least here in Melbourne there is no one that will mix you or colour match gelcoat to existing colours.
they sell white and blue  and some other plain generic colours, the process is the same for the repair but a little different in the application of the gelcoat.
We also do not fabricate custom gelcoats nor the guns to apply are affordable.
We are talking about a boat which is around a couple of thousand bucks, and personally, me , at least could not justify spending hundreds in importing prohibited liquids from the States nor colour matching by a proffesional, even if I could find one here.

I did a lot of research on this gelcoat topic, and basically 2pac paint is just as strong if not stronger as a repair if done properly.
5  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Restoration Projects: Underway, Prospects, also Help and Advice / Re: Repairing holes in transom on: February 22, 2011, 11:33:00 PM
Here Nev, you may have missed it:


Car putty or carbog was used as I left more of an indentation in the body after sanding the fiberglass, if this happens , you must use this as red or filler putty will shrink.
After sanding down the "carbog" a light film of red filling putty was used to cover up any pitting caused by the car bog.
If you sand down correctly the fiberglass you should be able to skip this stage.
6  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Restoration Projects: Underway, Prospects, also Help and Advice / Re: Repairing holes in transom on: February 22, 2011, 11:31:09 PM
resin was used in conjunction with glass sheeting to build up the hole.
I stated that if done correctly ,"carbog" would not have to be used.
In my case however I used minimal carbog to cover some very minor imperfections , followed by red putty which is a spatula applicable "spray putty"
7  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Restoration Projects: Underway, Prospects, also Help and Advice / Re: Repairing holes in transom on: February 22, 2011, 11:23:53 PM
sorry guys, my spell checker did not work, nor my ability to check my own wording!!
is there a way to edit my posts?
I see a few ,mispelt words.
Mars
8  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Restoration Projects: Underway, Prospects, also Help and Advice / Repairing holes in transom on: February 22, 2011, 08:30:24 PM
Hi All , I had mention that my knowledge of boats was minimal, however repairing and working with fiberglass was not.
I transfered this topic from my other thread and hope it will help others doing this.

I also have now the opportunity to "show" off my Electra's new cut and polish!!


I removed the number stickers but not the name, as the name vinyl was in good condition.
I then got my polishing grinder with a foam pad and hit it with number 2 cut and polish .
Polished windscreen , vinyl lettering and entire boat, result was incredible!






I tried to install the outboard and saw that the holes in the transom were not matching from Brand to Brand , furthermore had 2 extra holes on the back for the attachment of the hydraulic pump.

I first got out my trusty Dremmel and grinded of an area around the holes of about the size of a 50 cant piece, next I drilled out to 12.7mm the existing holes so that they were clean from any silicon or rotted timber.
Bought standard hardwood stick from Bunnings and cut dowels 3 mms shorter than hole from either side.
Prepared a mix of resin , dipped the dowels in the mix and hammered them into place , recessing them the above mentioned 3mm.
cleaned out area with acetone and sanded a larger section of the transom around the holes with a 400 to 600 grit wet sandpaper






takes no time to dry..... next is a dual layer of fiberglass sheeting, meaning 2 pieces of circle were cut out of fiberglass and resin in place for each hole and for either side.
It is best to be over flush to the body of the boat, so later it can be sanded down with a dry 120 or 80 grit and preferably an electric flat sander.
You will take off most of the overlapping resin and fiberglass leaving only the repaired hole.



Since the end result was going to be executed in 2 pack paint, it is important that from now on ALL products are compatible with 2 pack and not acrylic.
Car putty or carbog was used as I left more of an indentation in the body after sanding the fiberglass, if this happens , you must use this as red or filler putty will shrink.
After sanding down the "carbog" a light film of red filling putty was used to cover up any pitting caused by the car bog.
If you sand down correctly the fiberglass you should be able to skip this stage.
NOTE: when working in this step, mask out a reasonalbe section of the repair, so all sanding and spraying is not enlarged over the area originally worked on.


Next I used 2 pack high fill primer, this primer is a 2 part paint which dries rock hard allowing the 2 pack NOT to crack.
This is the difference to the acrylic primer, also note that 2 pack paint hardeners are completely harmful if not used with a respirator.
If you are repairing small dents and holes , you can easily do this on a hot day , no oven is needed to achieve the following results.
I got the colour matched in a little can , this is called a solid colour because it is mixed with the clear.
Minimal to no sanding or buffing is needed after spraying 2 pack paint.
In the next shot you will see the recent spray job , this was feathered out to the existing body and NOT masked out, only the sides of the repairs will be buffed out.

Result is incredible, paint was perfectly matched only thing left is polishing the sides and surroundings of the repair shown here, but you can see the spray job.


then I drilled out 13mm new Evinrude holes, silicon in the new stainless bolts, applied antiseize and here you go!
I hope this helps in any way , and if you need any advise on this repair , please contact me..
Marcel





9  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Savage Pics & History Wanted / Re: Another boat info required please on: February 14, 2011, 04:42:19 PM
Hi guys, was busy cleaning up my Electra.
Now if I should start a new thread , please advise.
I picked up the Electra and from what I can see its all original, including the original fitted motor, or at least they did an incredible job of fitting it second time around.
Seats and bimini are very good, and probably original too.
The outer shell seems to be in a very good condition,
I did try the sanding and re buffing which came out a treat , thank you for the tip!
Would love to hear your opinions.

The motor however does not run, apparently it started with a impellor issue which I have a new one in box(lol)
but the main rod that dismantles the engine could not be taken out. They cut a hole on the side of the case to confirm , but all the parts including the working hydraulics.
I am probably going to sell this , so i was wondering what would this be worth as is??


The little hull was not finished so i have no pics of that!


Thank you
Marcel












10  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Savage Pics & History Wanted / Re: Another boat info required please on: February 06, 2011, 08:35:06 PM
Thank you very much Gillian!
Awesome to have this and know a bit more about this boat.
Wish i could contribute as much as you all can to this forum but unfortunate my forte is in the house building game, however I would be more than willing to show updates and build ups on both boats if anyone is interested?
It is a very cool brochure and has a lot of info that can be stamped back on the ID plate which for some reason it was blank.
I also cannot believe this boat is over 40 years old! would imagine to have a lot of wear and tear, and it has come back from upper NSW to Vic.

Not sure whether to upload pics here or is this an ID tag on the forum only, if its not , please change.
This week the upper deck gets oven baked, should be back friday.
I have not yet prepared the hull, but the inside has a  fully rebuilt floor ,stringers and seat supports.
I have sprayed the inside with panel flex.
Will definetly post pics here on the coming weekend and hopefully have the electra also.
Again , thank you ALL for your help.
Marcel
11  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Savage Pics & History Wanted / Re: Another boat info required please on: February 06, 2011, 08:07:23 AM
ok I found out the a "Bosun" is a sailor that owrks on the ship deck! Sad
maybe Savage only made one of these!!lol
Mars
12  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Savage Pics & History Wanted / Re: Another boat info required please on: February 06, 2011, 07:53:36 AM
I just did a quick search on the Net for savage Bosun and nothing at all came up.
Is there another way of searching???
Marcel
13  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Savage Pics & History Wanted / Re: Another boat info required please on: February 06, 2011, 07:50:11 AM
To Chair:
Red and white is good for me although now that you mention about the gelcoat i will look into that as the paint is pretty ggod other than the fading!!

now to the Id of the boat, again thank all,
lol ,a poor man's boat?Huh I still (40 years later) cant afford anything bigger than the so called "Bosum"!!!lol
Thank you Gillian for chiming in, I saw the fold on the rear but I left it at a different  model build, like Mercman.
So now i have afew questions please?
Is it possible to buy a brochure or get a copy?
Are you able to identify with the serial number 6271 the year or any other info.
And lastly and more important , us this boat a more "rare" savage hull?
I dont think the wife would let me keep both so one will have to go! but I may be able to convince her in trying to restore it.
If I was able to get some pics of the inside or even acquire any badging for this .....would be greatly appreciated.
Anyone else here owns one of these?

So again guys and gals thank you for your constant help.
Marcel
14  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Savage Pics & History Wanted / Re: Another boat info required please on: February 04, 2011, 07:37:24 AM
the merc is beyond repair , may only be used for parts , however the hydraulic lift works just fine.
both transom i believe on both boats sits on about 20 " ,i may be corrected on this!lol
the 115hp fits both ,but i  am unsure the Viva could handle it.
After you guys ID the viva Jv marine said that although he had no specs on the Viva he personally thought it may be too much power over weight ratio.
The electra seems like a very nice and well taken care boat also, with absolutely no damage to body or paint apart from being a bit faded.
May ask here for paint schemes to do over the winter or something.
As I have  not much experience with boats in general , the electra is more ready to use than the viva.
Hence NOT spending anymore money.
Marcel
15  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Savage Pics & History Wanted / Re: Another boat info required please on: February 03, 2011, 10:35:23 PM
WOW!!!
It is very gratifying to come into this forum and hear the knowledge of you Gurus !!!
Thank you very much as ALL help is helpful.
So thank you all for your imput and response.
Yes I was dissapointed at first when i received the boat that it was not a 14 ft as stated , BUT the guy was so helpful that i overlooked the mistake and also loved the shape of the boat.
By chance i stumbled here and luckily found out a bit more about it.

I figured that someone here would either know or use a process of elimination to decipher the model.
Thank you all for your welcome cheerios!

I have since stripped the top paint as it was scratched and have 2 packed prep it for colour.
My original choice was an electra but could not find one at a right price......until today.
So as far as the 115hp that now reading some specs on the VIVA may be a little too big , bought the Electra that was on Ebay .
I will probably sell off the Viva and do up the electra .
The 115 should be ok on the Electra, I know i probably paid a little too much for the Viva but that was my bad as i should have found this forum first.

The electra is this one , should pick it up within this week, and any comments and or criticism is welcome.


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