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Title: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: MERCMAN on May 08, 2008, 07:48:15 PM
In a bid to crack the Ton, Sid decided two motors must be better than one.
So, he built a new boat. This boat was to be longer, wider and faster than his previous tunnel boat Lil' Fox.
Sid transplanted the motor from Lil' Fox and then he imported a new "BP" to keep the original motor company. The new motor was a later model and based on the 135hp platform.
The boat proved to be very competitive indeed. It sounded unbelieveable. However, in April 1970 Pickle Fork flipped during an Australian record attempt in Kogarah Bay. Sid escaped with only abrasions and cuts to the head and face, not to mention a broken boat and wallet.
Sid indicated Pickle Fork was doing approx 120mph prior the flip.

MERCMAN.     


Title: Re: Tunnel boat, Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: MERCMAN on May 08, 2008, 07:59:36 PM
Here is a close up shot of his menacing Mercs.

If you look into the quincey pipes, you will see Soft Balls which Sid always inserted during storage and transportation to protect the pistons and bores from corrosion from exposure directly to moist air.
Recently, Sid told me he forgot to remove the Soft Balls on one occasion. He said the result was hillarious when he hit the keys ;D
It frightenen the heck out of all the bystanders.

The photograph that I scanned these pics from was that damn huge, I had to scan half of it at at a time.

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: MERCMAN on May 10, 2008, 08:18:13 AM
Here is another BP Merc which was posted on The Board quite sometime ago.

http://board.net.au/yabbse/index.php?topic=88.msg406#msg406

Perhaps it was one of Sids motors at some stage??

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: bootlegger on May 10, 2008, 01:46:28 PM
Was this second motor in a marine shop in  Cowra.


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: MERCMAN on May 10, 2008, 03:32:01 PM
I doubt it Dave,
The BP in the above pic is presently owned by Guy Hanson in Victoria.
Guy is a friend of our Chairman.
I'm pretty sure I saw the exact same BP in a marine shop in Adelaide about 17 years ago. The more I think about it now...if it is the same BP I saw in Adelaide, I reckon it's more than likely it would have been previously owned by the Fuller boys who were racing a tunnel boat "Fullafun" in the unlimited/unrestricted class in the early 70's.
The first time I ever saw the Fuller boys run, was in 1975 when I went to Goolwa in SA for the Australian Outboard Championships.
Although, they were running a TwisterIIX on a new boat by then.

Perhaps the BP you saw at Cowra Marine was one of Sids???
The plot thickens. I know a few people who can help me unravell this.
While I'm at it, I'll try and find out how many BP's made it to Aust'.
Stay tuned..

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: Strangler on June 14, 2008, 11:27:38 AM
Hi mercman,

Had a great chat to David D today, got me up to date on what you blokes been talking about, all very interesting stuff I must say, in reply to your thoughts on the BP Mercs around, I know that I have owned mine for about 20 years, so there must be another one in Adelaide!! It would also be fun to find out not only how many were in Aus but how many are left? Just wanted to let you know that I have raced the BP in recent times and it is still a very impressive motor for its capacity, it runs well against the 4.2 ltr and 5 ltr displacements and modern outboard mono hull with twice the power, it will do about 90 MPH on a 16ft Fuller tunnel boat, it starts and idles and screams its head off and never stops, in fact it is perfect, I love it ;D Talk soon Regards Guy


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: paulg on December 23, 2008, 09:55:02 AM
Re- the motor at Cowra Marine.

It came to Cowra when Cec Peterson purchased it and ran it on Thunderbolt.

Ces sold it to Tony Barton.
After it was banned  Tony ran Thunderbolt with other motors until he flipped it ,Again, Both were rebuilt , both man and machine and retired.

Tony and I put the motor together for fun and show


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: paulg on January 08, 2009, 09:15:46 AM
Re Thunderbolts past history,

Thunderbolt ex Twister ex Discounter out of Melbourne  ;D


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: MERCMAN on January 09, 2009, 10:49:06 AM
Here is an interesting snippit. Sid Goldfinch just phoned me and said Cec Peterson was asking for the web address of The Board.
Sid said he had misplaced it, so he gave Cec my phone No.
Sid also said Cec had heard there was some discussions on The Board about BP's
I'm expecting Cec to call in the near future.

MERCMAN.

 


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: Chair on January 27, 2009, 11:19:38 AM
Looking forward to his input Guy
Hope you are having a great boating January.
David


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: MERCMAN on March 09, 2011, 12:21:57 PM
The things you learn... Earlier today, I was lucky enough to be speaking with one of Sydney's most famous timber boat builders..the great Cec Quilkey.

Cec informed me that it was he who actually built "Pickle Fork" for Sid Goldfinch. Cec also said, he and Sid still play Golf together. :)

Cec is now digging out some special photo's for me. Very soon, I hope to have some interesting history as far as twin rigs are concerned. Thanks for providing me with the idea Aaron. 8)

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: paulg on June 19, 2012, 06:29:01 PM
Off topic in a way but
 top weekend last weekend
http://www.dailyadvertiser.com.au/news/local/sport/other/powerboat-racing-a-model-for-spectators/2586720.aspx


a few old faces in the crowd


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: paulg on June 19, 2012, 06:32:44 PM
further,
http://www.dailyadvertiser.com.au/news/local/sport/other/memories-resurface-as-tunnel-boats-are-back-in-city/2590150.aspx
 ::)


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: MERCMAN on June 19, 2012, 07:36:53 PM
Hi Paul,
I'm guessing you somehow may been connected to fast boats and outboards inn the 70's too?
 
It's a shame I didn't know about that particular weekend earlier. I would have loved to been there. Our member Old Racer and I were at Wagga when Sid's boat flipped and fell on Bert's boat. Cec Peterson didn't quite get the year correct and the race wasn't a 1 hour Marathon either, it was the Arch Spooner Gold Cup, never mind.
Old Racer and I didn't know each other when we were in Wagga. As another coincidence, Old Racer will be sharing stories over many Beers this coming Friday night.
I'm sure we will dredge up some great memories. I can't wait.

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: paulg on June 20, 2012, 09:04:07 AM
Mercman,
   You could say I was involved.
The newspaper reporters tend to not hear or understand the information given over phones.
Examples of incidents that occoured during a sportsmans career can be reported to have happened in the wrong places.
We remember where and when.

Cowra Marine, All service motors, Reids Marine, Twister's, Ring-O-fire, Berts Boat's,Crazy Horse,Discounter,Cowra 250 enduro, Grafton,Griffith, etc,etc
 :-[


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: MERCMAN on June 20, 2012, 12:06:45 PM
Yep, so true Paul. I didn't think of it that way.

All those boats and places I know for sure!

Here is an odd combination of both. One year at the Aust Titles at Grafton I was actually in the Dancraft "Twister" for heats two & three of unlimited mono. The famous mono driver David Toyer was at the wheel and we had a 175 clamped to the back with a quick foot on it. It was very hard keeping the Tennessee's with the 200hp OMC honest. Gees, David can drive!

I use to knock around with Halliday, Troy, Wren, Hudson, MacIntyre, Evans, Medaris, etc plus I was a member of Sydney Outboard Club, the Offshore Power boat Club and RMYC Port Hacking. I pretty much managed to race somewhere most weekends during in the late 70's and early 80's.

MERCMAN.




 


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: paulg on June 20, 2012, 08:27:52 PM
Yep, I was there, in the back ground
Ken taught me bout Mercs
Bob improved my driving
I was just a fitter
Fitted out Twister
That quick foot is proberly the one in my shed

Been involved for a while, Len sheltrum and stardust



Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: MERCMAN on June 21, 2012, 08:10:46 AM
I still communicate with Ken Evans, almost on a daily basis!
I think you and I need to talk.
When Len had the Marine Centre way back in the early 60's, he sold my Dad's friend (Bill Greg) a 22' Chris Craft Express Cruiser fitted with twin 700 Dockbusters.
Do you know the vessel?
 
MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: paulg on June 29, 2012, 08:21:26 PM
na, at that time I was only interested it the opposite sex and only came in contact with the Sheltrum family when they came to Coraki or The Surfers Paradise ski gardens. ;D


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: MERCMAN on July 02, 2012, 10:53:11 AM
The Greg family went to Surfers with the Sheltrum's. Does Linda Greg ring a bell (.) (.)?

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: thunderbolt on December 26, 2014, 03:35:36 PM
Just a quick comment re Sid Goldfinch and Little Fox landing on Bert Hines on Lake Albert at Wagga Wagga yes reporters do often get it wrong yes it was the Arch Spooner Gold Cup and  when Cec won the first 1 Hour marathon
in Twister it was in May 1972 Twister was a Taylor Maid Tunnel Cec also has a collection of photo's taken by Gordon Rawlinson 3 shots a second of the whole incidence when Sid landed on Bert.
Here is another small piece for you Twister the 15 ft Dancraft with the 175 with the quick foot was set up and sponsored by Cec when he owned Thunderbolt Marine the 175 was one of the first two 175 hp's in Australia the other one
Mercury Marine fitted to a Glastron Boat as a demonstrator for the Press which was then sold to a Boorowa client of Thunderbolt Marine by Cec.
 
Hope this info has been useful

Thunderbolt


Title: Re: Tunnel boat Pickle Fork driven by Sid Goldfinch
Post by: MERCMAN on December 29, 2014, 11:34:02 AM
Hi Thunderbolt,
Welcome to The Board! Yes, I was at Wagga when Sid landed on Bert (RIP Bert).
I was also at Grafton when "Twister" the 15' Dancraft was sporting the all new Black Max 175hp V6 fitted with a quick foot. After the first heat, my friend John Troy (who was working for Mercury Marine at the time) came up to me and asked me if I could possibly ride with their ace driver David Toyer as his jocky, as the little Dancraft was a bit too flighty and was unable to stay in front of the bigger OMC motors. At the time, I was only 62kg ringing wet and the team felt my weight would calm the boat just enough. I seem to recall David and I won the next two heats and the owner of "Twister" took the trophy home. Merc wins again!
It goes with out saying, David was an absolute master at the wheel, the little Dancraft performed like a Champ' against Berts new big Tennessee's sporting the all new 200hp V6 OMC powereplants.

Within a year I had bought my own 15' Danncraft and I was racing it in both short circut and offshore events.

MERCMAN.