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Title: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 24, 2020, 11:22:03 PM
Found this boat for sale on-line. It was in Walla Walla, which the add said was near Albury. Just wondering if the boat is a Dorsett Catalina from the late 1950’s or early 1960’s. There was only 1 photo in the add and the picture was quite small, so I wasn't sure.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: Chair on May 25, 2020, 07:23:59 AM
Are you going to buying it?


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 28, 2020, 12:46:07 AM
No, I have a couple of boats already. I'm just interested in what boats are still out there in Australia.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: senojn on May 30, 2020, 06:49:26 PM
Looks like a Catalina from that angle and the colour almost confirms it .
Pity there is no more information available .Nice craft !


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on June 01, 2020, 07:30:46 PM
Yes, that's what I thought. The advert just said that it was a boat and trailer for sale, with no other details other than the price. But yes, it is a nice craft. Amazing to see it sitting outside in what looks to be someone's yard.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on April 02, 2021, 11:24:46 PM
Advertised on marketplace as a 1959 ski boat. Seller is unsure of make though.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on April 02, 2021, 11:26:32 PM
more pics


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on April 05, 2021, 11:27:05 PM
1973 Glastron v1760, 6 seater, bow rider with a 90hp Johnston outboard in Canberra advertised for sale.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on April 05, 2021, 11:30:18 PM
A couple more photos.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on April 05, 2021, 11:36:41 PM
Fishing boat with a big old Chrysler motor on it.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on April 05, 2021, 11:56:14 PM
Found this boat for sale from Wodonga VIC for $600. Not looking to buy for myself, but I thought I would post it as I just liked the look of it. Not sure if it's a classic boat, but it does have a classic engine on it. I have this same Johnson engine on my boat. I think their a 1968 or 1969 engine from memory. Not sure of the make, but it looks like it might have a savage badge on the side. The seller only listed 3 photos. The navigation lights look to be old. Seller has advertised the boat as having a good hull and Transom, and the engine as needing a starter motor. 


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: MERCMAN on April 07, 2021, 09:46:50 AM
Advertised on marketplace as a 1959 ski boat. Seller is unsure of make though.

If you conduct a google search of FiberGlassics, I feel you may stumble across the origin of this vessel. I seem to recall seeing a restored one all in pink, behind a period car with a similar rear end.


MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: MERCMAN on April 07, 2021, 09:49:44 AM
1973 Glastron v1760, 6 seater, bow rider with a 90hp Johnston outboard in Canberra advertised for sale.

I'm not sure the ID of V1760 on the side of the hull is correct. For a start, It's not a "V" hull. Also the only big tri-hull I recall Glastron making was a GT160.
Conduct a search on this site for GT160, I feel you will find something.

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: MERCMAN on April 07, 2021, 09:51:28 AM
Fishing boat with a big old Chrysler motor on it.

This one appears to be a Stebercraft. Usually known as simply Steber.

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: MERCMAN on April 07, 2021, 09:56:23 AM
Found this boat for sale from Wodonga VIC for $600. Not looking to buy for myself, but I thought I would post it as I just liked the look of it. Not sure if it's a classic boat, but it does have a classic engine on it. I have this same Johnson engine on my boat. I think their a 1968 or 1969 engine from memory. Not sure of the make, but it looks like it might have a savage badge on the side. The seller only listed 3 photos. The navigation lights look to be old. Seller has advertised the boat as having a good hull and Transom, and the engine as needing a starter motor. 

I agree, it's a Savage. This hull actually superseded the Savage Pursuit Deluxe. I can't recall the name of this hull. However, I feel the name will come to me.

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on April 08, 2021, 12:54:40 AM
Thanks for the info MERCMAN. I'll do some searches to find out more about these classic boats. Thanks again.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: MERCMAN on April 15, 2021, 09:47:44 PM
Found this boat for sale from Wodonga VIC for $600. Not looking to buy for myself, but I thought I would post it as I just liked the look of it. Not sure if it's a classic boat, but it does have a classic engine on it. I have this same Johnson engine on my boat. I think their a 1968 or 1969 engine from memory. Not sure of the make, but it looks like it might have a savage badge on the side. The seller only listed 3 photos. The navigation lights look to be old. Seller has advertised the boat as having a good hull and Transom, and the engine as needing a starter motor. 

I agree, it's a Savage. This hull actually superseded the Savage Pursuit Deluxe. I can't recall the name of this hull. However, I feel the name will come to me.

MERCMAN.

I reckon the name of this hull is: Avenger.

MERCMAN


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on April 20, 2021, 12:53:43 AM
Yes, I think your right. I looked up some photos of Savage Avenger boats and it did look like one. The windscreen is smaller on the boat, but the screen looks to have been chopped down or broken at some time.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on April 25, 2021, 12:23:27 AM
Advertised on Marketplace as a 1968 Swift Craft 1500 with a 1968 Evinrude 65hp Sportfour with original manuals including a parts book.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on April 25, 2021, 12:25:11 AM
More photos.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on April 25, 2021, 12:29:44 AM
more photos


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on April 27, 2021, 01:35:37 AM
Advertised on Marketplace as a 1970 12ft Pride boat with a putput motor.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on April 27, 2021, 01:39:16 AM
Bertram


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on April 27, 2021, 01:41:49 AM
Not sure what boat this is, but it looks old.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: MERCMAN on April 27, 2021, 04:32:45 PM
Not sure what boat this is, but it looks old.

Geepers True Blue, you have certainly been doing some digging! The Swift Craft is an outstanding example.

As for the boat above, it's a Savage. These hulls were around the 13ft mark and were usually powered by a 33hp or 40hp Evinrude. They were very basic mainly used for fishing, having bench seats. Not a good runabout (family boat). I can't recall the name of the hull right now.. I'll sleep on it and get back to you.

MERCMAN.

 


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: MERCMAN on April 29, 2021, 01:08:30 PM
I knew it would come to me.... It's a Savage Avalon. These were 14' long, not 13 as I originally remembered.

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: senojn on April 30, 2021, 03:34:02 PM
The encyclopedic Mercman has don it again !!!!!


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 01, 2021, 10:23:02 PM
Yes Mercman, I did find a few interesting boats out there. And yes, the Swift Craft is an outstanding example. It's just a great looking model, and the one in the photos looks to be in good condition for it's age. It looks as if it has been cared for, judging by the condition.

As for the Savage, you did well to remember the name of the hull. Senojn's right about the encyclopedic mind when it comes to boats.  :D

I find it interesting seeing what's out there in Oz land, and learning a bit more about the old boats. It's been fun.

Thanks for identifying the boats. It's a real help in learning more about them, as knowing the make and model gives me something to start with. I liked the savage boat as it looks like a bit old boat, and I really liked the controls. It would have been good to have a few more pics though, so I could see inside the boat.

Thanks again.

True Blue


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 04, 2021, 12:12:02 AM
Advertised as a 16 ft Lewis ski boat from the 1950's with a 60s 65hp Mercury motor.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 04, 2021, 12:15:37 AM
more photos


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 04, 2021, 12:20:09 AM
Not sure about this one either.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 04, 2021, 12:22:27 AM
The last boat looks similar to this one.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 04, 2021, 12:24:15 AM
Not the same boat, but I wondered if they may have been made by the same company.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: MERCMAN on May 04, 2021, 10:58:44 AM
Hi True Blue.
Some comments you may find useful.

Reply #28 & #29 boat is powered by 1965 Merc 650.

Reply #31 & #32 are in fact the same boat (Pride). Pics show the same cutdown windscreen. Also see there is a 35hp Evinrude IN the rear of the boat, against the well.


Keep up the digging, you are certainly good at it!

MERCMAN.



Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 07, 2021, 12:51:19 AM
Thanks MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 07, 2021, 01:01:41 AM
Found this Bellboy on Marketplace. There were only a couple of pictures. Would have like to have see what the inside had looked like.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 18, 2021, 12:32:02 AM
1982 Pride Capella


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 18, 2021, 01:12:45 AM
Carribean Sea Sprite.

I think that it is the same or similar model to the one that Mark from the Board purchased in 2009.

Mark S provided some information at the time, advising that "the Sea Sprites were made in 1966 & 1967."


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 18, 2021, 01:43:09 AM
Here are some photos of the Caribbean Sea Sprite that Michael (i.e. "larysumi") bought off eBay in 2009. At the time of his purchase, Michael was interested in what one looked like when it was original (i.e. dash badges, gauges etc.), and whether anyone had any articles/brochures on these little boats. He was also curious about what trailer manufacturers were around then (i.e. whether redco and tinka were available then etc.), and what sort of trailer would have come with his new boat. The trailer on the blue boat looks quite old, but i'm not sure if it would be as old as the boat.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 18, 2021, 01:54:24 AM
Another Caribbean Sea Sprite. Looks to have a different window to Michael's boat.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 30, 2021, 01:14:13 AM
Savage boat, not sure of what model or year.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 30, 2021, 01:18:17 AM
1975 Pride cheeta


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 30, 2021, 01:20:58 AM
Fibreglass speedboat


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on May 30, 2021, 01:24:54 AM
1962 Haines ski boat


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on June 07, 2021, 12:52:18 AM
Explorer X17 Pride Evinrude 140


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on June 07, 2021, 12:54:34 AM
seafarer 14ft


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: MERCMAN on June 07, 2021, 11:11:36 AM
1962 Haines ski boat

I very much doubt that is a Haines. In my opinion its a Crosby.

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on June 19, 2021, 12:41:34 AM
Yes, you're right Mercman. It looks similar to a Crosby Hurricane.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on June 28, 2021, 12:51:33 AM
Dorsett Catalina


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: senojn on June 28, 2021, 06:00:19 PM
The Catalinas don't look as good without their top screen do they ?
I recall the lovely turquoise shot you posted previously of one .There is also nice footage Catalina that colour on youtube .
I'm interested in the sense that this design in fibreglass in the 50's led to the production and style of my beloved 22ft plywood SX 2 in 1961 .
She was scratched from last years  Sydney Classic Boat Show due to covid.
Just about completed wiring new instruments and will post soon .
Everyone loves picture don't they Guy .

Cheers
Neil


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on June 29, 2021, 12:59:02 AM
Your right Neil about the Catalinas not looking as good without their top screen. And yes, there's some nice ones on youtube.
That's interesting that their design in fibreglass led to the production and style of your boat in plywood. They do look similar now that you mention it.
You must have been disappointed when she was scratched from last years Sydney Classic Boat Show. Covid has affected so many things hasn't it.
Yes, everyone does love pictures. looking forward to seeing some pics when you're done Neil.

Cheers
Julian


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on June 29, 2021, 01:03:05 AM
Not sure what this boat is, but it has an interesting shape.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on June 29, 2021, 01:09:19 AM
Glastron


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: senojn on June 30, 2021, 04:53:13 PM
I'll enter SX 2 for next year at Darling Harbour , Julian . Held every second year  , alternate one in Hobart .
Regarding my instrument panel/ lights update I will open a new subject in Members Boats .

Cheers Neil


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on July 04, 2021, 11:15:29 AM
Hi Neil,
that's great to hear. You must be really looking forward to entering your SX 2 next year at Darling Harbour. After the year we have had with lockdown's and the rest of it, that will be something to really look forward to.
Looking forward to seeing your instrument panel/ lights update.

Stay safe.

Julian


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on July 04, 2021, 11:38:47 AM
A great looking boat from the 1970's.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on July 04, 2021, 11:42:22 AM
Presents very well.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on July 25, 2021, 02:45:09 AM
Advertised as a Playboy boat.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on July 25, 2021, 02:46:28 AM
Playboy boat.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on July 25, 2021, 02:48:18 AM
Barracuda


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on July 25, 2021, 03:04:37 AM
Swiftcraft


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on July 25, 2021, 03:10:44 AM
Classic Savage boat


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on July 25, 2021, 03:05:20 PM
1959 Bellboy Banshee


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on July 25, 2021, 03:10:23 PM
In the last photo there is also a red car from the 1950's that has wings like the boat. "Wings make sense".


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on August 04, 2021, 01:30:41 AM
1989 Freighter bell boy


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on August 04, 2021, 01:33:58 AM
1980 savage Avalon 50 hp Johnson


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: MERCMAN on August 04, 2021, 12:20:15 PM
It's so good to see these last two examples have been re-powered and given a new lease on life!


MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on August 05, 2021, 12:52:12 AM
Yes, it is MERCMAN.
Is that a Suzuki engine on the Bell boy?


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on August 05, 2021, 12:59:04 AM
1990 Haines Hunter v146r


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: MERCMAN on August 06, 2021, 10:37:28 AM
Yes, it is MERCMAN.
Is that a Suzuki engine on the Bell boy?

For my money, I would say it is a 90hp Mariner.   

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on August 08, 2021, 09:54:15 PM
Yes, I think you might be right there MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on August 08, 2021, 09:59:05 PM
Pride Panther


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on August 08, 2021, 10:33:25 PM
1970’s Caribbean Colt speed boat


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on August 08, 2021, 10:36:45 PM
Caribbean


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on August 08, 2021, 10:39:56 PM
1970 Ramsay rebel with 186 Holden engine


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on August 08, 2021, 10:43:30 PM
1970 Ramsay rebel


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: MERCMAN on August 10, 2021, 02:48:47 PM
Those Ramsay Hulls look terrific.
Some of them look better on a trailer than in the water.

I'd remove the 186 with a crowbar and fit a 253 or 289. That would sound 10 times better! Probably go about the same as the 186??

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on August 13, 2021, 01:00:53 AM
You're right their MERCMAN. Those Ramsay Hulls do look terrific.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on August 13, 2021, 01:50:12 AM
Another classic speed boat


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on August 24, 2021, 02:22:48 AM
Here are some photos of a Savage Javelin from the NZ Antique & Classic Boat Show 2020


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on August 24, 2021, 02:51:06 AM
A very nicely restored Javelin, and great to see one in New Zealand. I love the stylish steering wheel, the colour and look of the seats and the upgraded motor.

There were so many great boats at the New Zealand antique & classic boat show. If anyone wants to have a look, the link is below

https://i.stuff.co.nz/.../high-altitude-boat-show. 


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on August 24, 2021, 02:56:01 AM
Sorry, that link didn't work. I've left some others below.

http://www.nzclassicboats.com/


https://www.woodyboater.com/.../its-a-real-boat-show-in.../


https://i.stuff.co.nz/.../high-altitude-boat-show...


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on August 24, 2021, 02:59:03 AM
@NZACBS  · Festival


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on September 04, 2022, 01:20:39 AM
I haven't see a Charger boat before. Not sure if they were built in Australia or the US.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on September 04, 2022, 01:28:56 AM
Sorry, I meant Chrysler boat.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on September 06, 2022, 09:51:08 PM
1964 Bell Boy all original boat motor and trailer.


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: True blue on September 06, 2022, 10:26:48 PM
Another photo


Title: Re: Classic boat
Post by: MERCMAN on September 08, 2022, 08:30:14 PM
A very impressive Bell Boy.
As for the motor, I seem recall there was some type of relationship with Chrysler Outboards. If you look at the West Bend, you'll see a lot of Mercury traits. There are many traits under the bonnet as well. In saying that, The Chrysler had no traits.. go figure?

In saying that, both the Chrysler and the West Bend had high gear ratio's and low pitch props where as... post 1961, Mercury abandoned the "norm" at the time
and pioneered the better  low gear ratio's and high pitch props. It was not until the very late 60's, when OMC (Evinrude/Johnson) followed Mercury's lead.   

MERCMAN.